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Sixteen years on the streets, living and working with the people of China, Jeff

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Quick recap

The group discussed geopolitical topics, particularly focusing on the US-China trade war and its potential escalation to kinetic conflict. They explored various aspects of global politics including diplomatic missions, religious transformations, and demographic trends across different regions, with particular attention to China’s growing influence and Western decline. The conversation concluded with discussions about Chinese manufacturing capabilities, upcoming travel plans, and geopolitical strategies, including analysis of historical plans and their modern implications.

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They talked about Eric’s plans to write a post about the US-China trade war and Eric’s website traffic. Jeff mentioned creating a new website called Gaokao Guru and working on a new book about his China adventures. The conversation then shifted to Quan’s successful diplomatic missions, including negotiations with Japan, Russia, and South Korea, as well as his family’s banking negotiations and preparations for a potential post-war scenario between the US and China.

Notre-Dame Masonic Transformation Discussion

The group discussed the transformation of Notre-Dame de Paris into a Masonic temple following the 2019 fire, with Quan noting the complete replacement of interior elements including the checker pattern floors and the altar. They also discussed the decline of Trinitarian Christianity since Vatican II in the 1960s, with Jeff sharing his experience attending a Catholic Mass in Taiwan where the pastor was Black and spoke fluent Chinese. The conversation concluded with Frans Vandenbosch’s upcoming visit chez Jeff, from October 18-23, and a discussion about Taiwan’s political situation, with Peter noting that the country’s democracy was compromised by a split ticket election result and ongoing political tensions between the KMT and DPP parties.

China-U.S. Trade War Escalation

The group discussed the ongoing trade war between China and the U.S., with Peter highlighting China’s strategic retaliation against U.S. dollar hegemony and Eric warning about the potential for a kinetic war in the next 2-3 years. Quan emphasized that China’s counterattacks have been effective, predicting a rapid collapse of the U.S. dollar and a future conflict. The discussion also touched on China’s growing influence in Africa and Latin America, as well as the U.S. government’s reliance on billionaires and lies to maintain power.

Global Nuclear Conflict Fears

The group discussed the potential for a major global conflict involving multiple nuclear powers, with Jeff expressing concern about NATO’s kinetic war with China and the implications of mutual defense treaties with North Korea and Russia. Quan suggested that World War III had already begun, citing Putin’s goals and the actions of China and Russia in challenging NATO. Peter and Eric shared insights on historical parallels and the role of corporate influence in global politics, while Frans expressed doubt about China’s immediate military retaliation to U.S. aggression, predicting instead economic countermeasures.

Global Airspace Tensions and Power Shift

The group discussed the geopolitical implications of recent airspace restrictions between Russia, Europe, and the United States, with Quan and others analyzing how these restrictions affect Chinese airlines. They explored the possibility of Trump imposing restrictions on Chinese aircraft landing in the US, with Quan suggesting this might be part of a broader pattern of Western leaders being controlled by compromising material. The conversation concluded with a discussion about the decline of US hegemony, with Quan arguing that Western prestige has been significantly diminished over the past decade, particularly in the eyes of the global majority outside the West.

Modern Chinese Manufacturing Insights

Frans shared his recent experiences in China, including visits to Beijing, Shenyang, Dandong, and Shanghai. He highlighted the advanced manufacturing capabilities in China, particularly a medical device factory in Shanghai that operates in complete darkness with full automation. He also discussed the lack of awareness among Chinese academics about the existence of eight opposition parties in China and the issue of disloyal professors at leading universities in Shanghai and Nanjing. The conversation touched on the need to develop a program to showcase modern Chinese factories to Western visitors, offering a more nuanced view of China’s industrial landscape beyond traditional tourist attractions.

Asia Travel and Political Encounters

Frans shared his upcoming travel plans to meet friends in Nanjing, Taiwan, Bangkok, and Koh Samui, including meetings with a Kuomintang member, a PLA officer, and a billionaire adventurer. Jeff suggested that Eric and Quan contact Pat Kell to give lectures at Samui Real, which could be published on Radio Sinoland. Eric raised concerns about Chinese students and professionals facing job difficulties and falling property values due to economic challenges, which Frans dismissed as likely exaggerated or misinformation.

Global Population Shifts and Challenges

The group discussed global demographic trends, with Eric highlighting that while Russia and Europe face population decline, China’s birth rate is below replacement level, but the government is implementing policies to encourage larger families. Quan suggested that a decrease in global population need not be catastrophic, as long as the remaining population is educated and technologically advanced, and noted China’s efforts to bring industrialization to Africa. Jeff expressed concern about France’s decline due to mass migration, describing how French culture and Christian heritage are being eroded, with violent crime and religious tensions rising.

Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan

The group discussed the Kudan Hove Kaler Gi Plan, a geopolitical strategy similar to the Rotschild-Schiff Sebrovsky plan, which aims to create chaos and conflict between Christians and Muslims. Quan explained how the Schofield Bible, funded by the Schiff family and Rothschilds, has been used to brainwash Christians since 1909 with an Israeli agenda. The discussion touched on the struggle between consciousness and anti-consciousness, with Eric comparing it to Buddhist concepts of enlightenment. The conversation concluded with Jeff expressing frustration with Substack’s limitations and censorship, while Quan and Jeff agreed to continue their discussion about Chinese history and culture in future meetings.

Post-interview comment by Kwan : the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan uses non-White peoples from non-Euro-American cultures to wreak havoc in Western nations : it’s the Divide & Impera favorite maneuver by the KFC-AZAEL predators pitching the foreigners against the local White peoples.

I see it as a sub-plan of the bigger, more encompassing Rumsfeld-Cebrowski Doctrine and its axial tenet is to cause chaos, disorder and disruption (color revolutions, financial & debt crisis, unstable currencies, collapsed economies, social persistent dissatisfactions, perverted culture preventing the healthy development of the younger generation, etc.) across the World for preventing the creation of a peaceful, developed and sophisticated global community under the leadership of stable and powerful sovereign civilizational states and those willing & capable of joining them.

The Rumsfeld-Cebrowski doctrine and its sub-plan the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan are the main tools of the Death Cult lording over the West.

Transcript

Eric: I’m actually thinking, especially since you were talking about China. I was thinking of doing a post talking about the new trade war we’re in. In the United States, they banned Huawei. They basically treat China like a dog. And when China says, “You know what? No more, no more rare earths,” the United States is like, “How can you possibly? Why are you treating me so badly?” It’s like the abused wife finally hits the asshole husband across the face, and then he’s, you know… It shows my basic point here is that the Western consciousness is in a very, very primitive state. They’re like 3000 years behind in terms of their level of consciousness. They have no empathy. They have no introspection. They have no critical thinking. They objectify everything so that they assume that they control everything. And the world is like just inanimate pieces on a chessboard that they can just manipulate to their own benefit. And that’s the root of the problem. That’s just, you know. Well, so.

Jeff: Then do it. Do it, and I’ll publish it. My website’s going crazy, so it’ll get you some people looking at your website.

Eric: That’s great. I’m really glad to hear that because I know you are struggling with getting people. Are you actually able to make any money from it at this point?

Jeff: No, I mean, I get a few donations, but it’s a long, long way from supporting me. I just created a new website called Gaokaoguru.org.

Eric: Yeah, I saw.

Jeff: And I’m going to start teaching Gaikao students because I need the money. Which means I’ll probably have to be doing less of the work that I love, which is writing. I’m turning Amir and Jeff’s Excellent China Adventure into my fourth book.

Eric: Oh, great.

Jeff: I think it’ll be really good. It’s sort of like a travelogue picture book with a geopolitical, political backbone to it. Each picture has a lot of captions and explanations. The writing is under each video or in the introduction. So we’ll see how it goes. But that’s the one thing that’s got me interested in writing another book. I don’t know the cost of having 250 pictures in a book, so we’ll have to see what happens.

Eric: My experience with Chinese, to be honest with you, has been really spotty. I met a Chinese teacher here. I tried to point out some things to him that he didn’t know, and he basically showed me the door to his temple. He said, “Get out of here because you’re challenging my authority.” Well, if you’re the head of a temple, that’s a Rinzai school of Chan Buddhism temple, and you’ve never heard of the Record of Rinzai book? I’m sorry, you’re not qualified.

Jeff: So.

Kwan: Yes. That’s quite worrying.

Jeff: It’s like a Christian preacher who’s never heard of the Bible.

Kwan: That would be less worrying for the world.

Jeff: Yeah, that’s true, that’s true.

Eric: Well, the thing that most bothers me about all this, having spent some time at this temple and having been at other Chinese temples, is that while there is certainly meditative inquiry and liberative attempts, there’s a lot of social control involved. So people say, “Oh, we hate the communists, so we’re going to be brainwashed as Buddhists.” It’s like.

Jeff: So how was your mission, Kwan?

Kwan: Oh, it was absolutely successful. I had three missions. I had the banking negotiation for my family. I had a true international diplomatic negotiation with Japan, Russia, and South Korea.

Jeff: Wow.

Kwan: And, of course, I had a mission, to go back a little bit to what Eric said.

Jeff: Hey, Frans. Welcome. Good to see you. I asked… we can’t… I don’t know if we can hear you or not. Oh, yeah, we can hear you now. So where were you? Were you in Europe or were you in Asia?

Kwan: I was on the Mediterranean Sea. We were using the yacht of one of my friends in Hong Kong. And for the serious part, well, all three parts are serious, but for the international negotiation, we went into the Akrotiri base, the UK base on the southern side of Cyprus. If you know, you know that there are two UK bases in Cyprus. On the southwest you have Akrotiri and the southeast we have Dhekelia, if I pronounce it correctly. And we used that base as a kind of neutral territory.

Jeff: Okay. Well, that sounds exciting. I’m happy for you.

Kwan: Well, yes, because we are negotiating the postwar conditions.

Eric: Which war?

Kwan: The war that would happen between the US and China.

Jeff: Okay.

Kwan: So it’s not a question of if, but a question of when.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, everybody, the US generals and the NATO generals, keep barking “2027,” so I don’t know.

Kwan: It’s very simple. They will never bow out graciously. So, as I said last time, China is moving slowly for strangulating. The banking negotiation precisely was good for my family. But a lot of plutocrats are preparing to jump ship. Okay, so it shows that they don’t trust that the US will be victorious. And they are right.

Jeff: Yeah, but where are they going to go on their yachts or on islands or…

Kwan: I don’t know they would stay there, but they have a lot of properties in Europe. They are not going to abandon them, but they know that the zone of growth and of economic prosperity and of making money is in East Asia. So they have to negotiate the overture for them postwar.

Jeff: Okay. Well, hats off to you.

Kwan: Yeah. And the last thing that I wanted to say about my mission is related to what Eric said. My family is also sponsoring Buddhist and Taoist temples overseas. And I was on a kind of vacation bonding relations with the responsibles of those temples. So Eric is right. There’s a lot of politics, and not always high politics, in relations with the Buddhist temples and Taoist temples, either in Asia or in the West. Also, a lot of movements related to meditation, Buddhist or not, and what is called the worship of Mother Earth, Gaia. Because the Western oligarchs are trying to replace Trinitarian Christianity as the framework for empire. In the West, the framework for empire has been Trinitarian Christianity since Emperor Constantine the First, for the last 17 centuries. The movement right now for the oligarchs in the West is to use Kabbalistic Judaism as a framework for empire, what most people know as Freemasonry. Because the general public doesn’t always understand that Freemasonry in reality is Kabbalistic Judaism.

Jeff: Yeah.

Kwan: Yeah.

Jeff: So my research showed that the Freemasons were basically founded and cultivated and used by Jews. So that makes sense.

Kwan: Yes. And you know that Notre-Dame de Paris, that is the archetypal monument to Trinitarian Christianity, has been transmogrified after the 2019 fire into a grandiose Masonic temple.

Jeff: I didn’t know that. Are you talking about the symbols inside it and all that?

Kwan: Yeah, well, the inside has been completely transmogrified. I was there last weekend. Oh, wow. I saw the transmogrification before, but I was there again last weekend, and it is obvious that it’s a Masonic temple. You did not have the occasion to visit Notre Dame after the 2019 fire?

Jeff: No, I did not.

Kwan: Okay. In case you would be in Paris someday…

Jeff: Go take a look.

Kwan: It’s no longer a Christian church. It’s obvious.

Jeff: Oh, wow. Well, I do know that Macron was trying to replace the stained glass that was not damaged in the false flag. I mean, it was obviously started by higher powers.

Kwan: It’s not only the stained glass that have been replaced. Everything inside has been replaced.

Jeff: Including the stained glass?

Kwan: Yeah. The altar, which is the most important place within a church, has been replaced by something completely Masonic. And you have the checkered pattern on the floors, you know, white and black, that is absolutely symbolic of Freemasonry. Well, the floor is completely like that now.

Jeff: Wow. Well, Evelyn thought that they had not replaced the stained glass. But you’re saying that the 12th century stained glass is no longer there?

Kwan: I don’t know, the 12th century stuff is still there.

Jeff: Okay, alright, alright. Because I know that Macron was really pushing to have the stained glass replaced with modern glass, which I’m sure would have been full of Masonic symbology and symbolism. But she said that there’s been such a public outcry that so far they have not been able to do it. So I don’t know.

Kwan: Well, I think maybe… I don’t know what is your opinion, but I think that since Vatican Two in the 1960s, Trinitarian Christianity is kaput.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s very interesting. Today, Evelyne and I went to a Catholic mass here in our little town of Puli, Taiwan Province, China, for the first time. And we really enjoyed it. I mean, I’m a practicing Buddhist, but I do love Catholic mass. And Evelyn likes to keep her… she’s not a practicing Catholic, but she is very, very imbued with Catholic traditions and the Catholic calendar and all of the accouterments that go with Catholicism. And it was really interesting and we enjoyed it so much. We plan on going back. The pastor’s black. He’s a black guy and speaks fluent Chinese and reads fluent Chinese. And it was a nice little crowd. It’s definitely different than a lot of Catholic churches in Europe, that’s for sure, but it was really nice and we met some nice people and so we plan on going back. We really enjoyed it. So at least here, the Catholic Church has not been transmogrified with Freemasonic symbolism. It’s still a Catholic church. So it’s pretty frightening, actually. So, Franz, where are you?

Frans: I’m currently in Shanghai.

Jeff: Oh. In Shanghai. Okay.

Frans: Can you hear me?

Jeff: Yeah, we can hear you.

Frans: Yes. Um, I am, by the way. You say?

Jeff: Are you… so you’re in Shanghai?

Frans: Yes.

Jeff: Okay, good.

Frans: Um, we last week went to the Saint Ignatius Cathedral here. A lot of people there, and they still do Catholic mass there.

Jeff: We had Catholic Mass also this morning. It was very nice.

Frans: Yes, yes, yes.

Jeff: By the way.

Frans: Uh, by the way, also in Belgium. Yes.

Jeff: No. Go ahead.

Frans: Uh, also in Belgium, we have a lot of black people, black pastors. Yeah, yeah. And even Chinese pastors in Belgium. Yes.

Jeff: I know there’s a lot.

Frans: Of black.

Jeff: Pastors.

Frans: Uh, local people.

Jeff: Yeah, I know there’s a lot of black pastors, Catholic pastors in France, too. Because I don’t know why the whites aren’t… the whites aren’t doing it. But maybe because they don’t want to live such a simple life, because in France they live off of donations from the parish. So if the parish doesn’t donate money, they don’t eat. This guy seemed to be doing okay. We gave a hundred… we gave 100 Taiwanese dollars. And it looked like everybody else was giving him quite a bit of money. And it’s so cheap to live here that I’m sure he’s doing okay. And, um. Hey, Peter. Welcome. So, anyway, by the way, everybody, good morning. Good morning. Prawns and his wife are going to come visit us from the 18th to the 23rd of October.

Frans: So that’s right.

Jeff: We’re looking forward to having him. And just last week… he’s a member of the China Writers Group, but doesn’t like emails, so he’s not in the China Writers Group email group. Peter Koenig. He and his wife came and visited last week for four days, and we had a wonderful time. His wife is Peruvian from South America. So we… anyway, so we’re really looking forward… our visit with Peter and Monica, her name, went really, really well and we’re really looking forward to having Prawns. Prawns, what is your wife’s name?

Frans: What is your…

Jeff: Wife. How do you spell it?

Frans: My, uh, I will type it here in the…

Jeff: Oh, in.

Frans: The chat.

Jeff: Right. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Oh, Lydia.

Frans: Lydia.

Jeff: Right? Okay. Lydia. Oh, that’s a classic name. Alright. Alright, good. Well, well. Evelyn asked. She said, “What’s her name?” I said, “I don’t know.” So, uh. So Mister Man, how are you doing?

Frans: Actually, uh.

Jeff: Go ahead.

Frans: It’s a Russian name, you know.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m surprised she hasn’t been thrown in jail.

Frans: So we both love Putin. Yes. That’s.

Jeff: Yeah. So, Peter, where are you? Peter.

Peter: Toronto.

Jeff: You’re in Toronto. How’s your mother doing?

Peter: My mother is doing great. She’s going to live to 125. At least.

Jeff: How old…

Peter: Is she?

Jeff: How old is she now?

Peter: She’s 99.

Jeff: Oh. Wow.

Frans: 99 years old. Wow.

Peter: That’s impressive. Right? She needs to go out every day, so it keeps me busy.

Jeff: Wow. I bet. Does she still have her cognitive, or is her mind doing okay?

Peter: Uh. Yeah, she pretends to be helpless, so she’s not so…

Jeff: So she gets all of your sympathy.

Peter: That’s right. She’s very manipulative. How do you think I end up in Toronto? I mean.

Peter: Like I love staying in China. Yeah. Yeah.

Jeff: Well, maybe you could. Maybe you can move here if you live longer than she does.

Peter: Well, you know, like I… yeah, I love China, I love going back. So I have lots of friends there, you know, like so anyways. But yeah, you know, like for Chinese, the son’s gotta do what soln’s gotta do, you know.

Jeff: Yeah, absolutely.

Peter: I’m the only son so…

Jeff: We see it here in Taiwan Province. It is so so so so family oriented. And when we first moved here, the neighbors here who have really, really helped us and helped us find this house that we live in, she said, “You know, Taiwan is really small and we are an island. Thus, so all of the Taiwanese consider everybody to be their family.” And I thought that was really… I thought… That was really profound.

Peter: Except on election day.

Jeff: Uh. Yeah.

Peter: And, uh, four more days until the election of the new head of the KMT.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah. Well.

Peter: Four more days.

Jeff: Because of their megalomania, they lost the executive. They couldn’t decide on one candidate. They refused, you know, being typical narcissistic megalomaniacs. For the last time, they couldn’t drill down to one candidate. So they had a split ticket. And so they won the legislature, but they lost the presidency to the DPP. And the current president is just an American puppet. So it’s really awful. It’s just awful. So, uh.

Peter: Yeah. Well, that’s the problem with the system, you know, like, they should have a runoff. Why don’t they have a runoff instead? They have someone who’s like less than 40% votes, and now he’s running the country like he’s a god.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah.

Peter: You know, I mean, yeah, you know, like. And then you have the legislature trying to stop him, so things don’t get done, and then they start throwing aspersions at each other. Anyways. DPP was trying to do for you.

Jeff: Yeah. Democracy. You know, democraZy.

Peter: And, uh.

Jeff: And then of course, the DPP was trying to do recalls, you know, and those all failed. They were trying to recall KMT candidates so that…

Peter: They could so…

Jeff: They could pack the legislature and have a majority. And I think there were 6 or 7 of them. They all failed by a 2 to 1 margin.

Peter: And, uh oh.

Jeff: Unbelievable.

Eric: Name a single Western-oriented democracy that is actually a democracy.

Peter: All the elected.

Frans: Yeah, right. That’s that’s right, Eric. Yes. Yeah.

Kwan: Switzerland.

Jeff: Oh, hey, listen, you talk to Peter Koenig, who’s Swiss, grew up there, and German Switzerland, and they live in Geneva. And he said Switzerland is an absolute joke. He said it is no better than France or Germany or Belgium or England. He said it’s awful. And he said every evil organization in the world has offices in Geneva. And he said it’s the center of Satanism as well.

Kwan: Jeff, that’s why they will leave an appearance of democracy for them.

Peter: Yeah.

Kwan: That’s the concentration of oligarchy there.

Peter: So, yeah.

Kwan: Switzerland. I want to play the devil’s advocate. Switzerland is a kind of aristocratic oligarchy, which is a very special spot in the West because they need a minimum of order for the shenanigans. So they chose Switzerland.

Peter: Yeah.

Jeff: Well, he finds it disgusting. So they spend six months in Geneva. They spend summer in Geneva and winter in Lima, Peru, where his wife is from. So, yeah. And now Peru’s going off the deep end. And they said the crime there is just become totally out of control. There’s gangs. There’s gangs. You know, it’s almost like the Democratic Republic of Congo, you know, there’s gangs roaming the streets and a lot of violence. And of course, they just deposed that fascist president or whatever her name was. And so anyway, it’s totally run by, it’s totally controlled by Western oligarchs. So it doesn’t have a bright future right now, unfortunately. And, uh. Well, listen, I think that this is all… who’s going to show up? I am a little bit disappointed a couple people didn’t make it, but really glad to have you guys. What’s the first order of business? Who wants to bring up something that the fans out there need to know about?

Peter: Mm.

Kwan: Well, what I said last time about the ban on the rare earth is manifesting in all its glory. I’ll come back later about that.

Jeff: Okay. So rare earths is one of them. Peter, you wanted to say something?

Peter: Uh, same things, you know, like, if you’re looking at what’s happening in the world, I think this is a good time to look back on what I wrote in 2018 when Trump first started the trade war. And that’s what I said, you know. Like, okay.

Jeff: So the trade war in general.

Peter: So, so China, so it was almost like completely predictable that, you know, China has always tried to make nice guy and, you know, like, rise peacefully. But America wants to attack it and I said eventually China is great because they give China a chance to really, like, openly attack, well, not attack, but retaliate, basically. And what would they do? The best thing to do, that’s what I said, is to attack the American dollar, because the American hegemony has three legs.

Peter: You know, it’s military. It’s economic, and it’s money. And it’s money because of the hegemony. And nothing happens without dollar hegemony. They would collapse. Yeah. You know, it’s a three-legged stool. And so if you study the art of war, you know, you attack what’s the easiest attack actually, and without bloodshed, you know. And so China over this period become much stronger and retaliated and attacked the dollar. And when the dollar collapses, then we can have the collapse of hegemony. And it wouldn’t have to be bloody. It wouldn’t have to be like a huge world war. So it would be great because Americans don’t have to die. So it’ll be nice.

Jeff: Go on. What do you want to talk about?

Peter: And… Oh, go.

Jeff: Ahead. Go ahead. Peter, finish.

Frans: I just.

Jeff: Oh. What do you…

Peter: Want to talk about?

Jeff: Trade war and US…

Frans: Dollar to explain. I just want to express how happy I am each time, every year when I arrive here in China. It’s unbelievable. My health is improved, everything. I’m so happy here to be in China and to meet so many people. Two weeks ago, I met Maria Carvalho in Shenyang. Wow. So good. Warm conversations with him. Last week, I met Chen Wei, the European correspondent of the China Daily in Brussels, who recently retired. Also very interesting stories. By the way, he was the only journalist in Brussels during many years who dared to attack Ursula von der Leyen during her press conferences. All the other journalists, sometimes 50 or more journalists sitting in the room there, they were just saying yes, yes, yes, right. And so on. And that’s the way it comes in our Western media. And Chen was the only one replicating to Ursula von der Leyen. A very interesting guy. Oh, we had a good meal, a dinner and an interesting conversation. On Friday I was at the China Academy, which is a division of Shanghai Media Group, which is state-owned, actually the China Academy. You should go to that website, the China academy.org, and see the list of the authors there, all the people writing for the China Academy. It’s really impressive. And I feel very honored that I can write. I’ve written maybe 5 or 6 articles for them. Very interesting. And we were discussing on Friday some new projects in which I will participate, to let the rest of the world know what’s really going on in China. I just here… I cannot express in words how much I like it here every day to see here. It’s terribly crowded here in Shanghai, but I enjoy it. You cannot imagine. Really. That’s what I want to say.

Jeff: And, Eric, what do you want to talk about?

Eric: I want to pull some of these strands together. In 2004, I was part of a professional group, and we were having a dinner meeting. I asked a portfolio manager for a trust fund—he manages money for widows and orphans—and I said to him, “The U.S. military budget is $500 billion. This is in 2004, and our budget deficit is also $500 billion. China is financing that. What would happen to the U.S. stock and bond market if China said, ‘We’re really tired of financing your military budget, which is surrounding our country with military bases. We don’t want to do that anymore’? What would happen if they decided to stop?” He said, “Let’s have a drink,” turned around, and walked away.

That was then. Now, as we can see, the dollar is being ditched. And this latest rare earth situation shows they’re strangling the U.S.—not just monetarily, but from a resource standpoint. As Francis said, there’s a kind of long, slow strangulation going on that will result in the isolation and quarantine of Western civilization, which has proven to be completely toxic over the last 500 years. The rest of the world is saying, “We’re not going to fight you. You just stay in your corner with your lousy economies, your rotten technology, and your woke agenda—and we’ll move on without you. Good luck.”

Peter: Yeah.

Eric: That’s basically how I see it.

Peter: Yeah.

Jeff: Well, Kwan—

Kwan: Kwan, go ahead. As I’ve written before, China still has a lot of very sharp arrows in their quiver—very sharp and dangerous arrows, means to get at the United States that they still haven’t used. So the United States basically has nothing left. They have no options. But China still does. These tools are easy to apply and work very fast—but they don’t use them. They just wait and see what’s going on in the United States.

Jeff: They have one option: war. That’s what it all boils down to. They’ve got nothing else except to accept war. That’s right—that’s the only option they have now. So, Kwan, let’s just go ahead and start at the top of the list. Rare earths—tell us what you want. Tell us what the fans need to know, and everybody else can pitch in.

Kwan: Well, it’s more than rare earths. I chose the term “rare earth” because it’s at the center of many things. I’d like to remind our audience that on December 18, 2017—at the end of Trump’s first presidency—China was declared the sole strategic competitor in a report by the U.S. Strategic Studies group. Let’s not forget that. I want to go back at least to 2017. That was nearly ten years ago. From that point, Chinese leaders prepared themselves. They weren’t sure in 2017 whether Trump would return, but it doesn’t matter—it could be Trump or anyone else. The U.S., and what I call the KFC—the autocratic feudal conglomerate of the Anglo-American establishment—has a continuity of agenda. That agenda is to prevent the rise of any competitor or near-peer competitor, to use their pretentious lexicon. In 2017, war was effectively declared on China by labeling it the sole strategic competitor. I also want to remind everyone that the following year, in December 2018, Meng Wanzhou—the “Huawei princess”—was kidnapped in Canada and sent to the U.S., where she remained for nearly three years. That marked the beginning of what I’d call the “TEAM” competition. (I like acronyms.) T is for technology, E for epistemologically advanced people, A for assets, and M for military power.

As Jeff said, this is the general plan of counterattack that Chinese leaders have employed. And we shouldn’t be shy about using the word “counterattack”—it’s time for China to step up clearly, because a war between China and the U.S. is inevitable. You said that yourself, Jeff, just minutes ago: when everything has been tried and failed—because the Chinese have been smart enough to mount efficient counterattacks—what’s left? Kinetic war.

I predict it will happen in two to three years because the U.S. dollar is dying. And what is at the center of a fiat currency? As the name implies, it’s based on trust—on faith that you believe in the machine or the people governing the machine that prints the money. That trust is now flushed down the toilet. You see many African countries now using the yuan. Kenya recently decided to use it. China and Russia have been doing so for a long time. China and Iran are aligned, and Belt and Road Initiative projects across Africa and Latin America reinforce this shift.

Meanwhile, the behavior of the second Trump administration—and the fact that most of his ministers look like used car salesmen—doesn’t inspire global confidence.

It’s clear that most people in the world have lost faith in the glory of the U.S. And once that confidence is gone, it’s only a matter of months before the U.S. dollar collapses. As Peter often says, “Collapse happens slowly, then suddenly very fast.” I think we’re very near that critical moment.

Since I predict kinetic war in two to three years, the sudden collapse will likely happen within the next year—maybe 15 months at most.

I don’t want to monopolize time, but I’ll take 30 seconds to mention that the so-called trade war negotiations—those meetings in Geneva, London, Stockholm, and Madrid—were kabuki theater. On China’s side, it was soft power performance, because China has already won. Technically speaking, those negotiations are just theater to reinforce China’s soft power.

Because again, it’s not just about money or fiat currency—trust is the main ingredient in international relations. I’ll stop there for now.

Jeff:  Who would like to respond? Anybody?  All I’ll add is that Trump’s ministers may be like used car salesmen, but they’re all billionaires—every one of them, with a capital B. Unbelievable.

Frans: We have to believe that being a used car salesman must be a thriving business in the U.S.

Eric: Well, Jeb Bush—the governor of Florida who rigged the 2000 election for George Bush—once said, “If you want to make any money, you’ve got to lie.” He really said that.

Jeff: Did he really say that?

Peter:  That?

Eric: He really said that.

Jeff: Really? I didn’t know that. I hadn’t heard that one.

Eric: And isn’t Trump the consummate liar? He’s so good at lying that people keep believing him, even though he lies constantly. The whole U.S. public does nothing but lie—and then the public believes lie after lie. That’s why there are billionaires: because they put up with this shit.

Peter: What?

Jeff: What’s going to happen? What I don’t understand is the NATO generals. They’re talking about a kinetic war with China—but China and North Korea have a mutual defense treaty. Zhou Enlai signed it with Kim Il Sung—the founder of North Korea, not Kim Jong Il or Kim Jong Un.

Have they not thought about the consequences? That means North Korea would invade South Korea. They’d overrun the 38th parallel with 1.2 million Marxist-Leninist, ideologically primed soldiers and hundreds of thousands of artillery shells. What are they thinking?

And now North Korea and Russia have just signed a new mutual defense agreement earlier this year—so Russia would defend North Korea. Russia will do everything it can to help North Korea, especially since North Korea helped Russia fight Nazis.

So it’s World War III. You’ve got Russia, North Korea, and China on one side. South Korea gets dragged in. That’s three nuclear powers—plus the U.S.—at war with each other.

Frans: But Jeff, if I may take two minutes: World War III has already started. Let’s not put our heads in the sand. When Putin declared in February 2022 that his goals were demilitarization and denazification, let’s not be naive—“denazification” means de-NATO-ification.

The attrition war over the last three and a half years has been designed to deplete NATO’s capacity to attack. Meanwhile, China is cutting off rare earth supplies to the U.S. China and Russia are working as a team against NATO. Iran, too—Iran has proven it’s not invincible, and I think Western leaders are mad enough to launch a second phase of attacks against Iran.

I’m sorry to speak irresponsibly, but I almost wish it would happen—because this time, Iran would crush Israel.

Jeff: Yeah. Peter, do you have any comments? Frans? Eric?

Eric: This afternoon I was reading a book called *American Exception* by Aaron Good. He draws a very cogent parallel between U.S. ruling economic elites and German economic elites during the Nazi period.

Consider the support U.S. oligarchs like Prescott Bush, Henry Ford, Tom Watson of IBM, and others at Standard Oil gave to Nazi Germany. There’s an undercurrent of Nazism inherent in the deep DNA of the United States and Europe. That’s what we’re really fighting—the manifestation of hegemony as crypto-Nazism.

China and Russia were the two major anti-fascist powers in World War II. They defeated fascism—Japan and Germany. That’s what’s actually happening now.

Jeff: Well, isn’t fascism—by definition—simply the marriage of corporations and government? Or corporations taking control of government?

Frans: Yes, maybe with a nuance, Jeff. Because if you look at the Chinese government, it’s also a marriage of government and corporations. But I’d add this nuance: in China, it’s an aristocratic oligarchy—a government centered on the people’s well-being and meritocracy. In the West, it’s an autocratic oligarchy—an evil government, to put it simply.

Jeff: Yeah, absolutely. Peter, you wanted to talk about the trade war and the U.S. dollar. Go ahead.

Peter: Go ahead.

Peter: Okay. Actually, I’ve already shared my views on the China Writers Forum (https://chinawritersfaculty.boards.net/thread/48/socioeconomics?page=3&scrollTo=606). I don’t claim to know everything, but I’ve put my ideas out there and let them go. I don’t spend much time tracking day-to-day developments.

But I think we’re all heading in the right direction. In our lifetimes, we’ll likely see the collapse of U.S. hegemony. China now knows it’s the most powerful country in the world—and it knows it must stand up to “Germany” (meaning the U.S.). In the past, it wouldn’t have done so.

When the Democrats appointed Kamala Harris as their candidate, I said Trump would win easily—and that wouldn’t be a bad thing, because it would wreak havoc on America and destroy it. And that’s exactly what’s happening now.

Look at Gaza: America is destroying itself. People in Israel, America, and around the world see what Israel is doing—but they don’t admit it’s happening because of America. Why blame Israel when America could say “stop,” and Israel would have to? The power is in America’s hands—and people know it. That’s why both America and Israel are finished. It may not happen today, but it will.

Don’t despair. China is now actively fighting hegemony because the rest of the world needs to know where to turn. If America acts openly as a hegemon, others now have a haven and partners to work with.

I’ll add one thing about Mexico: everyone was excited about the new Jewish female president, but I knew she was tricky. I predicted Mexico would cave to America—and it’s happening.

America and its hegemony are self-destructing, just like the Soviets. But now it’s run by a bunch of lying, moronic criminals.

People keep talking about trade wars—but it’s all lies. Anyone in real business knows: how can you deal with someone who never honors agreements, lies constantly, and changes their mind every five minutes? If you believe those “negotiations” are real, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

And don’t fear American bluster. They talk big—“We’ll invade Canada!”—but they couldn’t even beat Afghan goat herders. Are they really going to defeat Russia and China?

Remember Korea: Chinese peasants—fresh from civil war, wearing straw sandals in deep winter, armed only with handguns and grenades—marched into North Korea with no air cover, no tanks, no supply lines. They fought all the way past Seoul.

The only reason they stopped was that General Ridgeway realized they carried only eight days of food. So he’d retreat for eight days, then counterattack.

Yet they still pushed back the Americans—with nothing. And now people think they can defeat modern China? After seeing Chinese military parades, U.S. generals probably go home and weep.

It’s all talk. Don’t worry.

Jeff: Let’s not forget—they also used biological weapons against Chinese and North Korean forces along the Yalu River during the Korean War. It’s really psychopathic.

Peter: Really, really psychopathic.

Peter: China is now exposing this in a new movie called *Evil Unbound*—about Unit 731. It tells the true story openly. Even many Chinese people I know had never heard of it.

Now it’s out in the open—with movies and museums. Here’s the real narrative: it wasn’t just Japan. You never heard about it because America was involved. America danced with the devil—and whoever dances with the devil will burn in hell.

Jeff: Has anybody seen the new movie *731*?

Eric: I haven’t, but Al Jazeera did an extensive documentary on it—showing photos and firsthand accounts. It was horrific. They pointed out that the head of Unit 731 was given a choice: “Hang by the neck until dead, or cooperate and help us build our biological weapons program.” Obviously, he cooperated—and that’s how the U.S. developed its program.

Jeff: Fort Detrick in Maryland.

Eric: And as an addendum: in 1968, Soviet TV aired a movie called *Dead Season*. It opened with a KGB officer saying, “We don’t usually introduce TV films—but we must, because of Fort Detrick and Porton Down.” He described how these facilities developed weapons based on Nazi ideology—the belief that “inferiors” should be eliminated.

They were talking about Fort Detrick specifically—in 1968. So it’s good China is releasing this documentary. I’m sure it’ll be shown in every U.S. theater… Ha ha.

But the truth will seep out. What we really need is a transformation of consciousness in the West. People must take ownership of the evil that has controlled them for decades—centuries, even millennia.

Slowly but surely, there will either be transformation—or oblivion. The West will either sink, or drag the rest of the world down with it.

Peter: So…

Jeff: Frans, do you think Peter is right—that the U.S. is just bluffing and won’t go to war? Or will there be a hot war, France?

Peter: Um…

Kwan: Trump is dangerous. He’s under pressure from the Zionists. He might launch a limited hot war—just enough to test, but not enough to provoke China. And China probably won’t retaliate immediately. Given Chinese culture and mentality, even if the U.S. carries out a limited attack, China likely won’t respond on the battlefield—but economically or in other ways.

As I said before, China still has many other weapons to bring the U.S. down.

Another example: during the Ukraine war, after Russia invaded, the U.S. and Europe banned Russian planes from their airspace. Russia responded by closing its airspace to Western airlines. Now, when I fly from Brussels to Beijing on Hainan Airlines, we go straight over Russia. But Western carriers must detour around Russia and Ukraine—making them less competitive.

I wrote about this three weeks ago—and today RT reported Trump is considering banning Chinese planes from landing in the U.S.

Eric: Haha.

Kwan: Exactly. Can you imagine what happens if Chinese planes can’t land in Chicago or L.A.? It’s simply crazy.

Peter: Well…

Frans: That might be crazy—but at least he could do it if he wanted. But something even crazier: he apparently wanted to stop Chinese planes from flying through Russian airspace. That’s ridiculous—it’s not even under his control.

Kwan: Right. How dare he even think such things? Unbelievable.

Frans: Would he call his friend Vladimir and say, “Don’t let Chinese planes land in Russian airports”?

Jeff: I don’t know how much freedom Trump really has to make these decisions. After JFK, every U.S. president has been a puppet—of the City of London, the Rothschilds, the Schiff family, the Morgans, the Rockefellers. The City of London is the real government of the West. No president since Kennedy has done anything meaningful. They’re handed scripts—just like Macron, Starmer, and Merkel—and told, “Read this and act.” I think Trump might want to do good things for Americans—but he can’t. He’s totally owned and operated by the City of London. It’s sad to see. And Macron’s no different. He’s a Goldman Sachs Pygmalion. I mean, they just plucked him out of the University for National Administration in France, groomed him, cultivated him—and Goldman Sachs made him a millionaire and selected him as president. So he takes orders from the City of London.

When they write the history books about 2024 to 2028, it’s going to be really interesting.

Eric:

Jeff, I don’t know if any of you saw the movie—but there were actually two versions of *The Manchurian Candidate*. There was the original, and then a new version came out around 2004. It basically described how a U.S. president is inserted into office with deep programming—hypnotic suggestion—to carry out specific actions on cue.

I wouldn’t be surprised if both Obama and Trump, and even George W. Bush, were essentially Manchurian candidates—inserted by the deep state with deep hypnotic programming. That would explain what I consider to be Trump’s multiple—multiple, multiple—personality disorder. He’ll say one thing here, then something completely different there. In my opinion, that’s a symptom of multiple personality disorder.

Jeff: Which is schizophrenia.

Eric: Schizophrenia. And the whole country is schizophrenic. The mentality of the United States is schizophrenic. “We are the guardians of freedom and democracy in the world”—while they’re bombing the crap out of people and committing all kinds of war crimes. Their consciousness is completely fragmented. They’re unconscious of what they’re doing. It’s like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde—two personalities unaware of each other. One appears to do nice things, but in reality, this is what’s actually going on. That’s the mentality of our country—the United States and the West in general.

Jeff: Yeah.

Eric: Trump is the epitome of this.

Kwan: I’d like to offer a simpler explanation—not dismissing what you just said, Eric, but maybe it’s much more straightforward. It’s called the Epstein files. It’s called *kompromat*.

I think the entire Western so-called elite is controlled by *kompromat*. Of course, they’ve been cherry-picked. If you read Macron’s or Obama’s biographies, you’ll see they had—let’s say—questionable childhoods and teenage years. So they were cultivated as potential candidates for manipulation and use.

But without going too deep into *Manchurian Candidate*-style mind control, I’d say they’re not sovereign persons. Because they’re not sovereign, they’re simply mouthpieces for what I call the “high oligarchs”—old families who have ruled the West for centuries and still do.

I’d also say the U.S. is what I call the main operational base for the KFC AZEL. Since 1945—over the last three generations—the U.S. has served as the primary operational base for these oligarchs. But they can shift that base if needed.

And what Jeff said about them wanting to create and maintain disorder—I’ll repeat my favorite expression: it’s the Rumsfeld Doctrine. If they can’t rule the planet, they’ll wreak havoc. They’ll provoke chaos to prevent anyone else from ruling properly—and they’ll keep doing it as long as they’re capable. Sadly, they still are.

I’d argue that U.S. and Western hegemony has already ended. What is hegemony, after all? It’s the prestige that allows you to ask other nations to conform to your narrative—to your idealized image of yourself, your ruling class, your nation.

The schizophrenia Eric described is precisely the rupture between that ideal image and reality. I don’t think Americans are psychiatrically ill—they’re perfectly aware of the gap. But they want to maintain the mythology as long as they can defend it economically and militarily, because they benefit enormously from it—especially from having the world’s reserve currency, which they can print endlessly.

That’s possible only as long as they maintain the world’s most powerful military—which, for now, they still do. But over the last 20 years, China and other sovereign nations have advanced technologically, financially, economically, and socially. They now possess the industrial capacity to challenge the financial monopoly at the core of American power—plus the mythology that upholds it.

These oligarchs aren’t stupid in the ordinary sense—“stupid” doesn’t mean low IQ. I don’t think they’re low-IQ people. They’re using mythology to preserve privilege.

And I say Western hegemony has already ended because no one outside the West believes them anymore—and the West is only 12% of the global population. Even within that 12%, some smart people think outside the box. So roughly 90% of the planet no longer buys their narrative.

Governing is a kind of magic—you need a glorious story to hypnotize people. That prestige has broken down, especially in the last five to ten years.

Now, the great endeavor of the three major sovereign powers—China, Russia, Iran—and many others is to prevent the decomposing corpse of the West from infecting the rest of the planet. Because Western hegemony has already ended.

Jeff: Frans, tell us what you’ve seen in China over the last month.

Frans: Oh, sure. Should I do that in five minutes or an hour?

Jeff: Closer to five minutes.

Frans: Okay, I’ll try. I arrived in Beijing and stayed there about a week and a half, visiting friends. I went to Yuan Ming Yuan—the Old Summer Palace. You should read my newsletters and articles about it. I was deeply moved—and saddened—by what happened there. It’s truly terrible.

Then I went to Shenyang and met Maria Cavalho, who’s working on a new Chinese film about the Korean War. From Shenyang, I traveled to Dandong, on the border with North Korea—the famous “Broken Bridge.” I saw North Korea just two weeks ago.

I visited the war museum in Dandong. It’s huge—you need almost a full day to see it all. But strangely, there was almost no mention of the biological warfare used during the Korean War. I don’t understand why they omitted that.

From Dandong, I took the high-speed train back to Shenyang, then flew to Shanghai on the new COMAC C919. It’s a beautiful aircraft—much quieter than an Airbus and, of course, safer than a Boeing. In my opinion, it’s better quality than both.

I’ve been in Shanghai for about a week now, visiting friends. I had a wonderful Sichuan dinner—Chengdu-style—as I’ve mentioned before. Two days ago, I visited the China Academy. You should check out their website. It’s run by two or three very smart women, and they publish insightful articles and new ideas.

Most first-time visitors to China follow the same route: Beijing (Forbidden City, Great Wall), Xi’an (Terracotta Army), Chengdu (pandas). But what do people do on their second or third visit? There’s no standard itinerary for them.

That’s where we want to step in. We plan to bring visitors to Shanghai to see the maglev train, the skyscrapers, and—most importantly—inside a real Chinese factory. Most Westerners still imagine Chinese factories as long assembly lines with hundreds of women hand-soldering electronics. That image is completely outdated.

On Thursday, I visited a friend in Songjiang, south of Shanghai. He manufactures medical devices—stoma products for people who can’t use the toilet—for a company in Londonderry, Northern Ireland. They produce about 20,000 units per week.

I helped him prepare a new factory that will be fully automated—operating in complete darkness. It’s a clean room with plastic extrusion, injection molding, and packaging—all automated. That’s the new standard for Chinese manufacturing. But almost no one in the West has seen such a facility.

We want to show this to visitors so they understand China is at least 5 to 10 years ahead of the West. It’ll take time to develop this program, and interest may be limited—but it’s meant for people between regular tourists and Chamber of Commerce delegations.

After Shanghai, next Wednesday I’ll go to Nanjing to meet three friends. One is a member of the Revolutionary Committee of the Kuomintang—one of China’s eight recognized minority parties. (This isn’t the same KMT as in Taiwan; it split off in 1936.) These parties are part of China’s political system and even receive positive discrimination—more seats in the People’s Congress than their membership would suggest.

I mentioned this to the women at the China Academy, and they didn’t even know China has eight minority parties. Most Chinese people aren’t aware of them either—maybe they know one or two, but not how the system works.

Another topic I discussed with them: loyalty among professors at top universities like Fudan (Shanghai) and Nanjing University. We estimated that about 30% of faculty are disloyal to the Chinese government—their teachings contradict official positions.

I asked, “Why doesn’t the Communist Party, which has representatives in these universities, do something?” Their answer: these are mostly older professors—50+ years old—and they’re just waiting for them to retire. In 5 to 10 years, the problem will resolve itself.

Still, it’s strange—they publish papers that read like they were written at Harvard. Why not act sooner?

In Nanjing, I’ll also meet a young PLA art teacher who’s made minor improvements to naval systems—specifically on ships patrolling the islands between Japan and Taiwan—enhancing their ability to identify Japanese vessels and upgrade weaponry. He’s very sharp.

The third person is a 35-year-old billionaire friend who travels the world adventurously—Antarctica (no hotels—he stayed a week), Spitsbergen, Greenland, Siberia. He’s even crossed the Bering Strait by helicopter, island-hopping to the U.S. border.

Then, on Saturday, I’ll go to Taiwan—I hope Jeff picks me up at the airport—and we’ll have a healthy discussion. From Taiwan, I’ll head to Bangkok to visit a friend near the Cambodian border who runs a factory making industrial bulk bags.

After that, I’ll go to Koh Samui. If you know it, there’s a community of about 25 Western “refugees” living there peacefully, free from harassment by their home governments. They come from Germany, Australia, the UK, Ireland—even possibly the U.S. I’ll give a lecture there before returning home.

That’s my month-and-a-half journey across Asia in brief.

Jeff: By the way, Eric and Kwan, the group Frans mentioned is called Samui Real.

Eric: Yeah, I’ve been there.

Jeff: If you’d like to give a lecture, I’ll connect you with Pat—Pat Kel, I think. They do great work, and I can publish your talk on Radio Sinoland and blast it out to thousands. My website’s readership has exploded lately.

Kwan: Yes, Eric was there some time ago.

Eric: I’ve been there twice—to see Pepe Escobar and Matt Ehret. Very interesting meetings. But they haven’t shown interest in me giving a presentation.

Jeff: Pitch them! That’s what I did. I sent them a paper about my recent travels in China. They loved it—I just read it over Zoom, no visuals, nothing. Now I’ve got another one on the Mao era. There’s also Dr. Eamon McKinney—first Westerner with a joint venture in China back in ’76 or ’78. They loved his talk too. Kwan, you should do the same. Reach out to Pat, send your discussion paper—be proactive. I guarantee you’ll be accepted. They’re looking for speakers, especially on China… and Eric, you could talk about Russia—nobody there has covered that. Kwan, your work on epistemology would fit perfectly. They host philosophers, gurus, all kinds of thinkers. Just let me know when you’ve done it, and I’ll publish it on my site—you’ll reach tens of thousands.

Eric: That would be great. I only have about 170 subscribers—just gained two—but I’ve wanted to interject something I’ve been thinking about. I live in Chiang Mai, and thousands of Chinese are coming through, distorting the housing market. They’re moving money out of China and buying property here, driving up prices. I know several personally, and I’m hearing doubts from them. Let me share a case study: a woman I’ve known since 2009. She ran her own business; her husband was a computer programmer doing contract work for Amazon. He lost his job due to U.S.-China tensions. They bought a house in China for 2 million RMB, but its value has reportedly dropped nearly 40%. They’re still on the hook for the mortgage.

She’s now working as a translator in Uzbekistan—fluent in English, Russian, and Chinese. But her husband struggles to find work.

I’ve also met other Chinese here who say many university graduates can’t find jobs. And Frans, when you describe fully automated factories—great, but where will the jobs come from?

Frans: Okay, I can’t wait to reply. First, I can’t believe real estate in China has fallen 40%—that’s impossible. Second, a skilled engineer can’t find a job in China? Also impossible. There’s massive demand—my friend in Songjiang can’t find enough workers.

Of course, not every graduate lands their dream job immediately. But many young people in Shanghai expect Western-level salaries. If you demand that, of course you won’t get hired. Chinese salaries are lower—and that’s normal. If this husband truly can’t find work, I’m skeptical.

Eric: These aren’t rumors—they’re personal friends.

Frans: I understand—but they might be misrepresenting things. It’s like asking a Chinese restaurant owner in Paris or Brussels about China’s economy. They’ll always say it’s bad—because they need to justify why they left. Otherwise, their families back home would beg them to return. It’s the same narrative: “I left because China is terrible.” They have no other choice but to say that.

Jeff: I’ve noticed the same with Russian émigrés in Thailand—they all hate Russia. I’ll say, “I admire Putin; he’s a great leader,” and they look at me like I’m insane. They have to badmouth their homeland to justify leaving.

Eric: Exactly. There are two groups: younger people struggling to find work, and wealthier ones leaving. One more point: globally, populations aren’t replacing themselves. You need 2.1 children per woman to maintain population. The U.S. is at 1.6, Russia at 1.4, Europe and Japan even lower. China faces the same issue. My question: to what extent is China supporting larger families?

Frans: Coincidentally, I answered this exact question two days ago. A retired Belgian university dean asked after a Berlin think tank report on China’s demographics. First, look at Japan—it’s far worse than China. Second, Europe’s birth rate looks stable only because of immigration—mostly from North Africa, where families have many children. Native Europeans average one child or fewer. China could solve this with immigration like Europe—but it chooses not to. Instead, it’s using other tools: birth bonuses, tax breaks, expanded childcare, longer maternity and paternity leave. They’ve launched programs to encourage larger families, and I’m already seeing more children on Shanghai streets. Have some confidence—the government will resolve this.

Peter: Yes.

Jeff: They’re doing everything possible—things a socialist country like China can implement that the West can’t even attempt. And I love how they run local experiments—Suzhou tries one policy, Chengdu another—like greenhouses testing what works. I agree—they’ll figure it out. I just read in the *South China Morning Post* that China’s 350,000 robots are already compensating for labor shortages. What do you think, Kwan?

Kwan: Well, first, I’d like to say that a decrease in global population shouldn’t necessarily be seen as a catastrophe. It’s not just about numbers—it’s also about the quality of life.

And I’ll admit I’m biased, but I believe China is making the most urgent and necessary intervention in Africa. Africa is the continent with the highest birth rates, and the technology and industrialization China is bringing—especially to places like Ethiopia—is exactly what’s needed. A large population requires industrialization, scientific development, and technological advancement.

As for countries with low birth rates, again, I don’t see that as inherently catastrophic—thanks to robotization. To be frank, I can’t be absolutely certain about Chinese immigration policy, but I am sure about Japan’s: it’s a firm “nyet.” The Japanese have repeatedly stated they don’t want an open, free-for-all nation. They value deep cultural roots and continuity. That’s debatable, of course—but with advanced robotics, it’s frankly not a big deal.

If you’ve seen the latest Chinese robots, they’re incredible. I’d happily get one to clean my house. There are even robots that walk your dog! (Though my wife wouldn’t be happy—she prefers to do it herself or have me do it.)

Frans: What I’m saying is this: yes, population growth is often seen as a sign of a developed nation—that’s generally true. But that principle needs nuance. What kind of population are we talking about? An educated one? One that’s scientifically and technologically savvy? Epistemologically advanced? *That’s* the real mark of a developed society—not sheer numbers.

That’s why I believe China is on the right path. Of course, China benefits too—I’m not claiming it’s purely altruistic. But by bringing technology and industrial development to Africa, China is helping ensure that Africa’s growing population becomes educated, skilled, and epistemologically developed.

For older or newly industrialized nations, having fewer people isn’t a disaster—as long as those people are highly developed in knowledge, science, philosophy, and critical thinking. Imagine a planet with 4 billion people—half of today’s number—but all educated, sophisticated, philosophically aware, and technologically capable. *That’s* the kind of population we should aim for.

Kwan: I’d like to respond to that—I absolutely agree. What I’m observing is that the families having large numbers of children often aren’t committed to that principle of epistemological development. Take Israel: who are the families with ten kids? The Haredi. All they study is the Torah. They’re not interested in contributing to broader society—and yet they demand state handouts. In France, many of the families with many children show little interest in education or integration. So there’s a counter-trend to the kind of planetary mass enlightenment I hope for: a fair amount of religious obscurantism. People are clinging to dogma rather than engaging in real inquiry and education. I don’t think China has this problem—but it’s a serious issue globally. Miseducated populations are highly manipulable, and that can lead to dystopia.

Peter: Absolutely.

Jeff: It already is.

Eric: Dystopia already exists. The U.S. is a perfect example.

Jeff: France is already a dystopia. Evelyn just spent the summer there.

Peter: Yeah.

Jeff: I can’t believe what’s happened to France. She came back shocked, mortified, upset, and angry at how the country has been utterly debauched—not by immigration, but by mass migration. Wave after wave of people who don’t care about France or the French. They’re responsible for 80% of violent crime—raping women on the metro, knifing people, breaking into cars, storming Catholic churches during Mass, setting fire to the robes on statues of the Virgin Mary, stealing from donation boxes, vandalizing churches. She returned almost depressed—shell-shocked by how far France has fallen. And it’s over. The elites are controlled by the powers above them, and they’re actively trying to destroy white Christian culture. Let’s be honest: they want to destroy white Christian culture, and they’re using Muslims as brooms to sweep Christians off the planet. And once that’s done, they’ll turn on the Muslims too. Now they’re proposing we can’t call “All Saints’ Day” by its name because it’s “too religious”—yet national TV broadcasts Muslim prayers beneath the Eiffel Tower. They want to rename Christmas “Winter Holiday” and All Saints’ Day “Remembrance Day.”

We speak French together, so I’m translating what she told me—but yes, it’s “Remembrance Day” now. It’s over, baby. France has been so thoroughly “Judeo-Weimarized”—it’s terrible. I don’t know about Belgium, but I assume…

Frans: It’s… Exactly the same. Yes—exactly the same. And even worse in Belgium. It’s terrible.

Jeff: What were you going to say, Kwan? I’m sorry—I rudely interrupted you.

Peter: No, no.

Kwan: No, that’s okay. I wanted to say that for our audience, if you want to understand this phenomenon more deeply, look up the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan. (Spelled: C-O-U-D-E-N-H-O-V-E hyphen K-A-L-E-R-G-I.)

Just as the oligarchs have the Rumsfeld-Cebrowski Doctrine for geopolitical chaos, they also have the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan for cultural destruction—using Muslims against Christians first, then using the most extreme factions of Islam against mainstream Muslims.

It’s similar to how a distorted form of Christianity is promoted in the West—not traditional Christianity, but something like the MAGA movement, which stems from the Scofield Bible, first published in 1909. That Bible became a tool to brainwash Christians into supporting the Israeli geopolitical agenda.

Eric: So my question is: is there a deep, nihilistic undercurrent that has seized control of the global narrative—a self-destructive tendency? I see it as a profound spiritual and psychological sickness among the ruling elites. They’re not just destroying themselves—they’re destroying their own populations.

Jeff: And don’t forget who funded the Scofield Bible: the Schiff family of the City of London. Then the Rothschilds—another City of London dynasty—used their billions to ensure every Protestant church in America received boxes of Scofield Bibles. It’s essentially a manifesto to impose Talmudic and Torah prophecies onto the rest of the world. It’s unbelievable.

Kwan: It’s complicated. Within the Anglo-American establishment, there’s broad agreement—but also factional quarrels. The project of Israel, going back to the Balfour Declaration of November 2, 1917, was originally a colonial enterprise. The British were happy to relocate European Jews to the Middle East. But many wealthy Jewish families—the Rothschilds, the Schiffs—had no desire to go to a “lost land.” They preferred their estates in London, Paris, New York, and Newport.

However, there were also unhinged elements within the group who truly believed you could *force the hand of God*. This ties into a theological framework called Dispensationalism, developed by John Nelson Darby (1800–1882). Cyrus Scofield, his student, published the Scofield Bible in 1909—and since then, much of America has been brainwashed by this ideology. The idea of “Greater Israel” didn’t begin in 1984 (when a famous article appeared)—it goes back at least a century. It’s a colonial project fused with a fanatical theology.

So, Eric, to return to your point: yes, this reflects a deeply disrupted consciousness. These elites don’t want a thriving global population—they want a depopulated world. The Georgia Guidestones, erected in the 1980s, explicitly state the ideal human population should be 500 million. That means eliminating over 90% of humanity.

This connects to cybernetics too. In an aristocratic oligarchy like China’s, robotization is used to *assist* the population. But in a theocratic oligarchy, robots are tools of repression—handling chores while enabling control, not liberation.

I know this sounds simplistic, but sometimes simple concepts reflect reality: we are in a genuine struggle between good and evil.

Eric: I’d frame it as a struggle between consciousness and anti-consciousness. From a Buddhist perspective, all beings possess Buddha nature—the potential for enlightenment. But powerful negative forces are actively suppressing that potential, not just individually but on a planetary scale. Look at Silicon Valley oligarchs like Peter Thiel—they’re amplifying this negativity. In Moscow, there’s a Museum of Books that holds a first edition titled something like *Cybernetics: The Control of Humans and Animals*. That’s the dark application of technology: control, not elevation.

China and the Soviet Union, by contrast, used technology to *develop* people—not repress them. That’s the difference.

Kwan: Exactly. And I’d add that I see history as having a direction—toward greater justice, toward what I’d call “my serving right.” We’re at a major nexus in universal history, moving toward that ideal. The more conscious, epistemologically developed people *will* prevail. We have objective signs of this: the forces of awareness are gaining ground.

But the “bad guys” know they can’t win through domination. So they have only two strategies left:

  1. The Rumsfeld-Cebrowsky Doctrine: wreak global havoc.
  2. The Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan: pit “mad Christians” against “mad Muslims” to generate endless chaos.

That’s why I’ve been so adamant: we must *not* fall into their trap. We must avoid direct military confrontation—which is exactly what they want. Instead, we should continue the slow, strategic strangulation of the Anglo-American autocratic feudal conglomerate through financial, technological, diplomatic, and industrial means.

And before I forget—about dissenting academics in China: the best way to manage them is to *let them speak*. Suppressing them makes them more dangerous. China’s aristocratic oligarchy is confident enough to allow dissent—because it knows true stability comes from meritocratic governance, not censorship. This is a sign of a mature society.

Eric: That’s intellectual immunity—developing resilience against falsehood through exposure and discernment.

Kwan: Precisely. Among those academics, many are sincere—they genuinely believe their views would benefit China. Some may be traitors—but it’s still better to let them speak openly than to drive them underground.

Jeff: Yeah. Hey, listen, guys—we’ve been going for two hours. I think we should call it a night. You were all terrific. Go ahead.

Kwan: Before I forget—I know you wrote a magnificent book on Chinese history and culture. I think we could have a very rich dialogue: you from your book, me from what I’ve known since childhood.

Jeff: We’ll pick that up at our next roundtable—or we could do interviews. By the way, since my website’s doing so well, Kwan, if you have anything China-specific you’d like to write, I’ll blast it on *Radio Sino Land*. I’m averaging about 30 million page views a year—readership is high.

Kwan: For writing, you can’t count on me right now, Jeff—I’m very busy with my family’s banking affairs.

Jeff: Got it. But I may republish our past collaborations—your movie critiques and such. And Eric wants to write about China too; I’ll definitely promote it.

The truth is, Substack is a mirage. It’s Mossad, CIA, and MI6 wrapped in a veneer of freedom. They shadow-ban me heavily. They cut over 3,000 subscribers from my list without warning—just said, “These people aren’t allowed.” It’s a joke. If you want real reach, you need your own website—the only platform you truly control. For me, Substack is now just a tiny cherry on a huge cake. People sign up daily, but my subscriber count hasn’t moved in three months. It’s smoke and mirrors.

Kwan: But Jeff, are you surprised? Antonio Gramsci’s theory of cultural hegemony explains this: the ruling class allows limited dissent to maintain the illusion of openness—while controlling the dominant narrative. Wikipedia? It’s a CIA and NATO operation—despite its multilingual, “neutral” appearance. Even in China, free expression has limits. Cross the red line—like trying to form a political party opposed to the CPC—and it won’t be tolerated. That’s the one true boundary: no adversarial political parties. Advisory parties? Yes. Opposition that seeks to replace the CPC? No.

Jeff: Exactly—like the eight United Front parties Frans mentioned. They’re not opposition in the Western sense; they’re advisory. They call out inconsistencies, corruption, inefficiencies—they’re watchdogs. Mao designed it that way: “We need them to keep us honest.” And it works: one-third of China’s National People’s Congress comes from these parties. That’s far more pluralism than in the U.S. Congress, UK Parliament, or French Chamber of Deputies.

Kwan: And it works because their advice is actually *taken seriously*.

Jeff: Absolutely. Well, guys—Eric, I think you stepped out for a moment. This has been superb. Thank you, Kwan Lee, Eric Arnow, Peter Man, and Frans Vandenbosch (who had to leave early). I love these discussions—and I know our listeners do too. I’ll get this edited and published ASAP. Oh—there’s Eric! I was just saying, at 77, he had to go take a tinkle.

Eric: How dare you call me out! I drank two large, iced cocoas today—forgive me.

Jeff: That’s alright! I’m going to stop the recording now… goodbye, unofficially!

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Jeff J. Brown is a geopolitical analyst, journalist, lecturer and the author of The China Trilogy. It consists of 44 Days Backpacking in China – The Middle Kingdom in the 21st Century, with the United States, Europe and the Fate of the World in Its Looking Glass (2013); Punto Press released China Rising – Capitalist Roads, Socialist Destinations (2016); and BIG Red Book on China (2020). As well, he published a textbook, Doctor WriteRead’s Treasure Trove to Great English (2015). Jeff is a Senior Editor & China Correspondent for The Greanville Post, where he keeps a column, Dispatch from Beijing and is a Global Opinion Leader at 21st Century. He also writes a column for The Saker, called the Moscow-Beijing Express. Jeff writes, interviews and podcasts on his own program, China Rising Radio Sinoland, which is also available on YouTubeStitcher Radio, iTunes, Ivoox and RUvid. Guests have included Ramsey Clark, James Bradley, Moti Nissani, Godfree Roberts, Hiroyuki Hamada, The Saker and many others. [/su_spoiler]

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